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                      that hour.  That's not very relaxing.

                                STEVEN
                      Hustling is one of the most phenomenal
                      things around.  It helps people.  Some
                      people don't have somebody to talk to.
                      Some people are in a relationship with a
                      wife and children.  They began the
                      relationship because society told them it
                      was wrong to be gay. I, or any other
                      hustler is there to give them sex and
                      you're allowed to pay for it.  It's okay.

            LIGHT CUE: SUDDEN BLACK-OUT

            MUSIC CUE: WHITE LINES-CUTS OUT

                                ALLEN
                      Oh shit.

            Allen lights a lighter.

                                ALLEN (CONT'D)
                      My electricity just got turned off
                      because I haven't paid the bill. I don't
                      need to have fifty TVs or five cars.  I
                      just want a life that I could be
                      comfortable with. I want electricity and
                      I don't want to hustle.

            Steven lights a lighter.

                                STEVEN
                      Morning calls are people on drugs.
                      Afternoon calls are people on lunch
                      breaks. And evening calls, they get a lot
                      pickier.  It's just something about the
                      night time.

            Interviewer lights a lighter.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How much money do you have on you right
                      now?

                                ALLEN
                      Like ten dollars and like a dollar fifty
                      in quarters.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How much money do you have to your name?

                                ALLEN
                      Like ten dollars and like a dollar fifty
                      in quarters.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      And how will you eat for the week?

                                ALLEN
                      I don't know.  Maybe I'll borrow five
                      bucks from somebody here and from
                      somebody there.  But for this whole week
                      I won't do any drugs.  Maybe I'll smoke
                      somebody else's pot.

            Joe lights a lighter...pretend to smoke a joint...blows out
            lighter and in succession the other lighters go out.

            LIGHT CUE: GENERAL WASH RESTORE-BUMP UP

                                JOE
                      There was this place on the pier where I
                      met this guy in broad daylight and he
                      started giving me head then these guys
                      came over...

                                BRIAN
                      "Let us watch." 

                                MICHAEL
                      "We never see anything like this at
                      home."  

                                JOE
                      I was like, "You know in most parts of
                      the city it would cost you money to see
                      this." I said, "As long as I hear money
                      falling through the chain-link fence you
                      can watch." So they started throwing
                      change and then they stopped and I
                      stopped and they were like, "Why?"  And I
                      said, "I don't hear money dropping."  So
                      they started dropping more money.

                                ALLEN
                      You gotta get the money first.  If you
                      don't they're gonna fuck you over.  And
                      cops, that's another reason.  If I get
                      the money first, what did I get the money
                      for?  Nothing.

                                STEVEN
                      You say, "Take off your clothes."  If
                      they take off their clothes, they're not
                      a cop.  They are allowed to lie to you. 
                      A lot of escorts think that's entrapment. 
                      It's not.  A police officer will ask
                      you...

                                BRIAN
                      "Okay will you get fucked for a hundred
                      and fifty dollars?" 

                                STEVEN
                      "You know what, we'll discuss that
                      later."  And if they don't agree to those
                      terms, they're more than likely a cop. 
                      And then you just walk out.

            We are now in a courtroom...Brian plays the rapist...he
            stares blankly at Allen.

                                ALLEN
                      We went to eat and afterwards went to his
                      house and he was drinking and doing coke
                      and stuff like that.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How old was he?

                                ALLEN
                      I don't know, I guess about forty or
                      something like that.  He had a beautiful
                      apartment?  Anyway, I guess he had it in
                      his head in spite of what we discussed
                      that he was gonna fuck me.  And he had
                      his hand on my throat and he was forcing
                      my legs up in the air.  And we fought.  I
                      think I hit him with something like an
                      ashtray or a statuette. Then he just
                      passed out and I took some money out of
                      his wallet and I ran.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So was there blood?

                                ALLEN
                      No, but he was bruised really, really
                      bad.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      But he passed out?

                                ALLEN
                      Yeah.  I mean he was high as it was, so
                      it wasn't difficult.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How do you know he didn't die?

                                ALLEN
                      Oh God, don't say that.  He was breathing
                      when I left.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How do you know he didn't pass out later?

                                ALLEN
                      I don't.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You never heard from him or saw him
                      again?

                                ALLEN
                      No.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You may have killed him.

                                ALLEN
                      I hope not.  I really hope not.

                                STEVEN
                      I pay for sex as much as I get paid for
                      sex.  I think it's the best thing.  You
                      call up the agency and you say today I
                      want a long guy who has piercings, likes
                      to fuck and doesn't speak a word of
                      English.  Or the opposite, I want a
                      transsexual with tits and a dick. It's so
                      simple and easy.  It's so dumb to go to
                      bars if you're just going to get sex.  To
                      sit there and go through the whole
                      bullshit of... 

                                JOE
                      "Where are you from?" 

                                STEVEN
                      ...when you know that's not really what
                      you're wanting to know.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You hit him with an ashtray in his head. 
                      Do you ever think about the fact that you
                      may have killed this guy?

                                ALLEN
                      He may have been trying to kill me.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Do you think that he thought he was
                      trying to rape you or do you think that
                      he thought it was just a sex game you
                      were playing?

                                ALLEN
                      It was discussed that I wasn't gonna do
                      that.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You said I will not be having anal sex?

                                ALLEN
                      Right. But then when we were in his
                      apartment, supposedly that was what I
                      really did want and he was gonna give it
                      to me.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Did he say, "You know you really want
                      this"?

                                ALLEN
                      Yeah and that's what made me decide that
                      this is not what I need to be doing with
                      my life.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So at the end of the night you did not
                      feel like you had been involved in sex
                      that got a little rough?  You felt like
                      you had been the victim of attempted
                      rape?

                                ALLEN
                      Yeah because he was hurting me and trying
                      to make me do something I didn't want to
                      do.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How hard was his hand on your throat?

                                ALLEN
                      It was hard. I think that he thought
                      since he was gonna give me money he was
                      gonna do whatever he wanted to do.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      When you were having dinner did he seem
                      sane?  Did he seem honest?

                                ALLEN
                      More or less.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You didn't have any reason to believe
                      that he would try to rape you?

                                ALLEN
                      No.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Did you file a police report?

                                ALLEN
                      No, because prostitution is illegal, so
                      what was I gonna say?  Plus, my father's
                      a police officer and I just figured
                      somehow or another he might find out.

                                PATRICK
                      Male rape is more common than we think. I
                      work as a volunteer in a rape crisis
                      program. Men would show up in the
                      emergency room and say they were mugged
                      or assaulted.  When hospitals started
                      asking if they were sexually assaulted,
                      the percentage of men who said yes went
                      up.

                                STEVEN
                      A police officer who arrested my lover,
                      called us afterwards because he in fact
                      is gay and wanted to get to know my lover
                      better.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Tell me about the relationship between
                      drugs and sex.

                                STEVEN
                      I think the best was on crack cocaine.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Was it the crack or was it the guy you
                      were with?

                                ALL
                          (except Michael & Patrick)
                      I think it was the crack.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Why do you think that?

                                STEVEN
                      It just gives you a rush.  I mean some
                      people can't do it like that but for me
                      it worked fine.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Was it only one time of sex on crack?

                                STEVEN
                      It was a lot of times.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      What's sex on crack like?

                                STEVEN
                      It's just like using poppers.  

                                ALLEN
                      It's a rush.  

                                STEVEN
                      It makes you horny?

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Would you smoke crack while you were
                      having sex?

                                STEVEN
                      I'd take a hit while somebody would be
                      sucking my dick...

                                STEVEN (CONT'D)
                      ...or I'd be screwing someone and they'd
                      take a hit.

                                ALLEN
                      There's a difference between getting
                      stoned and smoking pot.  

                                STEVEN
                      I only get stoned rarely. 

                                ALLEN
                      I smoke pot daily.

                                STEVEN
                      I only do cocaine now.

                                ALLEN
                      It just relaxes me, that's all.

                                STEVEN
                      I've smoked pot before and I've tried
                      other things like crystal.

                                ALLEN
                      I know how to regulate it

                                STEVEN
                      When I do drugs I have fun.

                                ALLEN
                      I could go for a very long time without
                      it.

                                STEVEN
                      Drugs are one of my types of fun right
                      now.

                                ALLEN
                      When I'm over it, I'll be over it.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Would you rather have sex or drugs?

                                STEVEN
                      That's hard.
                          (pause)
                      I can't answer that.

                                ALLEN
                      I think I would have to give up sex.

                                PATRICK 
                      If you don't have a goal or a clear
                      direction, then what direction do you
                      have?

                                ALLEN
                      Heroin has been a big player in my life.

                                STEVEN
                      Heroin is typical of what they say.

                                ALLEN
                      It boosts your self-esteem.

                                PATRICK
                      I see a lot of people who have just
                      stopped growing and really have more
                      potential than they take advantage of. 
                      There really is much more that they can
                      be doing.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Do you ever give unconditional love and
                      support?

                                PATRICK
                      It depends.

                                STEVEN
                      That doesn't sound very unconditional to
                      me.

                                PATRICK
                      Having a doctorate at times is a little
                      tough because people get defensive about
                      their own lack of education, but their
                      education has only stopped because they
                      have chosen to let it stop.  

                                ALLEN
                      You can only imagine when I stopped
                      heroin, how the brick wall hit me. I felt
                      so miniscule, I felt so small.

                                PATRICK
                      I have my doctorate and I continue to
                      hide in academia.  I'm currently doing
                      research on a book about gender issues in
                      the eighteenth century.  I spend a lot of
                      time on my work.

                                STEVEN
                      I don't understand why a color has to be
                      worn, why your hair has to be a certain
                      way, why your furniture has to be set a
                      certain way, why water should be drunk a
                      certain way, why you should write a
                      certain way.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you got your doctorate when you were
                      like twelve?

                                PATRICK
                      I completed my doctorate earlier than
                      most.

            LIGHT CUE: VIDEO BOOTH-SINGLE DIM LIGHT-BUMP UP

                                BRIAN
                      I had a bad experience in New Orleans.

            MUSIC CUE: ALIEN TRILOGY-TRACK 8

             Allen plays the crack guy.

                                BRIAN (CONT'D)
                      It was in one of those places with
                      booths.  This guy lit up a crack pipe in
                      this booth.  It was just like really
                      disturbing to me.  He had a condom on him
                      and I was sucking his dick and he lit up
                      and I heard it and I smelled it.  And I
                      got up and I was just like, instant fear,
                      drugs, AIDS.  I mean I always assume
                      everyone's positive anyway but it just
                      smacked me in the face.  The crack pipe
                      just smacked me in the face.  It just
                      scared the living shit out of me, and I
                      just left. 

            MUSIC CUE: ALIEN TRILOGY-FADE OUT AT 1:15

            LIGHT CUE: GENERAL WASH RESTORE-3 COUNT

                                PATRICK
                      So, I said, "Why don't we try going out?" 
                      And it all evolved from there. It was
                      easy to be the aggressor with him because
                      he was shyer than I am.  When I would see
                      him in a social setting I always knew I
                      could walk up to him and make some
                      comment that would make him blush.
                      Ironically, when I would go to bars I was
                      always the one to let men come up to me. 
                      And I know that sounds conceited when I
                      say that.  What's more ironic is that for
                      years I always found tops when I wanted
                      to find a bottom and everyone's else is
                      complaining that they only find bottoms.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Why did you fall in love with him?

                                PATRICK
                      Because he's very intelligent and very
                      caring and warm and funny and handsome,
                      um... and I just feel so incredible when
                      I am with him. I always felt insecure
                      with him because he really is so
                      brilliant, and I used to think, "Oh my
                      God, I can't keep up in a conversation
                      with him.  Why does he want to hang
                      around with me?  He's seventeen years
                      older than I am."  And...

                                INTERVIEWER
                      That would make him fifty...

                                PATRICK
                      He was actually fifty-one earlier this
                      month.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Happy Birthday.

            SLOW DANCE SECTION

            MUSIC CUE: HELLO IN THERE-BETTE MIDDLER-FULL

            The following transitions/crossfades should all be slow.

            LIGHT CUE: SINGLE OVERHEAD SPOT ON PATRICK AND FRANK-DANCING

            LIGHT CUE: SINGLE OVERHEAD SPOT ON MICHAEL AND ALLEN-DANCING

            LIGHT CUE: SINGLE OVERHEAD SPOT ON GABRIEL AND STEVEN-DANCING

            LIGHT CUE: ALL THREE SPOTS ON

            LIGHT CUE: SINGLE OVERHEAD SPOT ON PATRICK AND FRANK-DANCING

            LIGHT CUE: GENERAL WASH RESTORE-SLOWLY

            MUSIC CUE: HELLO IN THERE-SLOW FADE OUT

            Dancers freeze during next scene.

                                JOE
                      I always joke with my roommate that I
                      don't want to be older than sixty-five
                      because I look at older men and the more
                      I see, the less I think it's likely to be
                      with someone and to have someone.  Who
                      wants to be the old man walking around
                      the bar?  Who wants to be old and alone?

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You'd rather be dead than be that person?

                                JOE
                      I would unless I find something that
                      fills that void.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you wouldn't sleep with older men?

                                JOE
                      I haven't.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Does age turn you off?

                                JOE
                      It turns me off sexually.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Do you worry about not being desirable in
                      a few years?

                                JOE
                      Yeah because it just happens.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Do you ever think you may become more
                      desirable as you age?

                                JOE
                      That's a possibility, but I do not take
                      comfort in that.

            Frank and Patrick come to life, both laughing.

                                FRANK
                      When I was in junior high The Exorcist...

                                PATRICK
                      Oh he always tells this story...

                                FRANK
                      Shut-up, shut-up...so..

            The rest come to life and line up to hear the story.

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      ...when I was in junior high The Exorcist
                      had come out and I had read the book.  My
                      mother had gotten it through her book of
                      the month club and I snuck it out and I
                      was reading it, just as I had with
                      Jacqueline Suzann's Valley of the Dolls
                      and all the other "adult books."  I was
                      fascinated by The Exorcist, and when the
                      movie came out I was dying to see it, but
                      it was rated R and I was too young to get
                      in. Anyway, there was this whole big
                      media hype of hiding what Linda Blair
                      looked like in full make up as the demon,
                      but somebody in school got this
                      magazine...

            MUSIC CUE: THE EXORCIST THEME-UNDERSCORE

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      ...and there were a couple of pictures of
                      Linda Blair in the demon make-up.  The
                      magazine was Playgirl  which at the time
                      had just come out.  Don't ask me who
                      among these kids got this thing, but
                      everybody was looking at it.  And I'm
                      looking and I had NO idea what anything
                      was.  You open up to the middle of it and
                      there's this man with no clothes on, and
                      I was like, "Wow."  And
                                             I'm so naive, I'm
                      still trying to find the Linda Blair
                      pictures.  In fact, everybody else was
                      borrowing this magazine and taking it
                      home to study Linda, and I'm believing
                      this.  That's not what they took it home
                      to study, we know that now.  When it came
                      my turn and I got to bring it home.  I
                      was outside playing and I came in the
                      house...

            LIGHT CUE: FOCUS ON BED-SMOOTH FADE

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      ...and my mother was as white as a ghost. 
                      She had been up in my room and saw the
                      magazine on my bed. 
                      Now I still didn't know anything, but my
                      mother said, "Where did you get this? 
                      Thank God your father didn't see this." 
                      In my naivet?, I told her that Linda
                      Blair's pictures were in there and
                      everybody's been passing it around cause
                      everybody was dying to see them.  And she
                      says, "Yeah but look, what kind of a
                      thing is this and what are you doing and
                      how did they get this?  And who got
                      this?" She said, "Get that out of this
                      house."  

            LIGHT CUE: SPOT ON BED

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      So that night in my bedroom, laying on
                      the floor on my stomach with my legs kind
                      of up in the air thumbing through this
                      thing,  I start to see all that was
                      there. Mr. Naive starts to wake up to why
                      mom got so upset.  I'm looking at these
                      pictures and I'm like, "wow" and I'm
                      getting really "wow," and the next thing
                      I know...
                          (he cums)
                      I came...

            MUSIC CUE: EXORCIST THEME-BUMP OUT

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      ...right in my pants.  Just from laying
                      on the ground on the hard floor.  I'm
                      thinking, "I didn't have to go to the
                      bathroom, how'd I wet my pants?"  I
                      didn't know what it was!  That was the
                      first time.  

            LIGHT CUE: GENERAL WASH RESTORE-3 COUNT

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      My parents had never discussed sex with
                      me and we didn't have any thing in
                      school. In fact to this day,  I'm still
                      prone to fucking the mattress or the
                      pillow as opposed to jacking-off by hand
                      because it happened that way the first
                      time.

                                PATRICK
                      I actually started masturbating before I
                      could ejaculate.  Not realizing what I
                      was doing, but it sure felt good. 
                      It was wild that I would have an orgasm,
                      but since nothing would come out, I could
                      keep going.  

                                STEVEN
                      I define sex as someone cumming. 
                      "Fooling around" is not sex. When you
                      start sucking and the guy cums, or you
                      start intercourse and the guy cums, or
                      you jerk off and you cum, that's sex. I
                      think ejaculation is sex.

                                BRIAN
                      I remember one time, I was having sex
                      with this girl and I faked an orgasm with
                      her because I just knew it wasn't gonna
                      work.  I mean I've never had a problem
                      having an erection, but to have an orgasm
                      was different.

                                MICHAEL
                      It was a very sad thing you know when I
                      first told her.  The only reason I told
                      her by the way was because she was not
                      yet pregnant.  I didn't have relations
                      with her.  I tried, but I couldn't.  I
                      couldn't ejaculate in her.  So I got
                      nowhere fast.  She started to wonder if
                      it was her.  She wanted to go to a doctor
                      to check herself out. Cause she thought
                      maybe she was not able to have children.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you would never have an orgasm?

                                MICHAEL
                      That's what I'm saying.  I knew that she
                      couldn't possibly be pregnant.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you're faking orgasms with this woman,
                      and so she doesn't know why she's not
                      getting pregnant?

                                MICHAEL
                      Right.  Then I told her, I couldn't just
                      let her go on.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you loved her?

                                MICHAEL
                      Not sexually.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      But you cared about her?

                                MICHAEL
                      Yes.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You cared about the marriage?

                                MICHAEL
                      Yeah.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      But did you want to change for her, or
                      did you want to change because you really
                      wanted to become a heterosexual?

                                MICHAEL
                      No, I went there sincerely to really try
                      to affect a change.  The therapist told
                      me because I couldn't consummate my
                      marriage by thinking about my wife, I
                      should think about men.  And she became
                      pregnant. That was the only way I could
                      do it.

                                PATRICK
                      Well what's interesting is since all my
                      siblings have children my parents relate
                      to the grandchildren, but when they come
                      to visit me we have to deal with each
                      other, no hiding behind children.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      So you have a child?

                                MICHAEL
                      Four.  That's number one, but over a
                      period of time.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You have four children?

                                MICHAEL
                      Yeah.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      All conceived with you thinking about
                      men?

                                MICHAEL
                      Yeah.

                                BRIAN
                      That's one thing I really want...kids.

                                STEVEN
                      My mother is forty-nine.  

            MUSIC CUE-KARAMER VS KRAMER-TRACK 19-UNDERSCORING

                                STEVEN (CONT'D)
                      She goes to work at six a.m. and gets off
                      at three in the evening.  She comes home,
                      takes her smock off, sits down and smokes
                      a cigarette and has a cup of coffee.  She
                      fixes my dad a sandwich and they sit side
                      by side and watch television until
                      evening.  She'll wake up in the morning
                      and do it all over again.  Every day of
                      her life.  When my mother dies, I'll
                      probably end up killing myself.  That's
                      how close I am to her.  I can speak to
                      her about hemorrhoids, about crabs, about
                      cocaine getting clogged in my nose, about
                      how Philip and I argued over how done my
                      steak was.  I can speak to her about any
                      aspect of my life and she will respond
                      and say she loves me.

            MUSIC CUE: UNDERSCORING OUT

                                MICHAEL
                      I did what I thought was right, I tried
                      to get married and I thought I would
                      change.  I really believed that.  So if
                      it comes out as deception, I didn't mean
                      it that way.

                                PATRICK
                      My mother and father have been together
                      forty-three years.  They sleep in
                      separate rooms, but they're still
                      together.

                                JOE
                      I have a fear of commitment.  I have this
                      fear of someone liking me too much and me
                      not liking them enough and me hurting
                      them.  Then I have the other side of the
                      coin where I fear too much needing on my
                      part.  Anonymous sex is safe in an
                      emotional sense.

            LIGHT CUE: DIM RED WASH-BUMP

            MUSIC CUE: TAINTED LOVE-EXTENDED VERSION-UNDERSCORE

            We are now in a Sex Club. Cast lines up against the back
            wall.

                                FRANK
                      The majority of my sexual encounters have
                      been anonymous, faceless...You couldn't
                      talk to people, you could just barely see
                      their faces.  

            He starts to walk along the back wall cruising the men.

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      You'd walk through the dark corridors,
                      and they were lined with guys doing
                      things I didn't think I could do in front
                      of so many people.  I maybe went there
                      once or twice but did nothing.  Then
                      finally I got comfortable enough to
                      actually venture into the crowds.  

            They all go cruise the audience.

                                FRANK (CONT'D)
                      I gave him head.  I had been practicing
                      on dildos for a long time. Through the
                      years I've jammed myself in ways that I
                      think would make most guys cringe.  I
                      cringe when I think about what I've done
                      to myself over the years.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      To your anus?

                                FRANK
                      And orally.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      You would suck the dildos?

                                FRANK
                      Yes, to practice...

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Were they big dildos?

                                FRANK
                      I tried with smaller ones first and then
                      I worked up to the Jeff Stryker model.
                      You start with the five inch dildo and
                      you end up with the nine inch.  It's not
                      just something you plow into.

                                PATRICK
                      I went to jack off clubs.  I had gone to
                      the rambles in the park when I first came
                      to the city and was first coming out. 
                      But I never liked the whole tea room sex
                      thing because I think I really saw that
                      as being very sad and pathetic.

            LIGHT CUE: GENERAL WASH RESTORE-BUMP

            MUSIC CUE: TAINTED LOVE-BUMP OUT

                                FRANK
                      Why did you see it as pathetic?

                                PATRICK
                      I really viewed it as a group of people
                      that grew up at a time when they needed
                      to hide who they were.  So they'd go and
                      have the anonymous sex because they
                      couldn't risk really meeting someone for
                      fear of their family or their job or...   

                                JOE
                      Some people would be enraged that you
                      think their lives are sad and pathetic
                      because they enjoy bathroom sex.

                                PATRICK
                      But it is sad.  These aren't people who
                      are open or willing to have a
                      relationship with someone.

                                JOE
                      You don't think someone can be in a
                      relationship and go and have anonymous
                      sex and enjoy it and have a very happy,
                      full, content life with a lover?

                                STEVEN
                      Love, I totally believe, has nothing to
                      do with sex.  I learned to divide them. 
                      I escort, and I don't love these people
                      that I fool around with for sex.  I love
                      my husband very much and I love having
                      sex with him, that's just a plus.  You
                      can have sex with somebody and not love
                      them and you can love someone and not
                      have sex with them.

                                FRANK
                      I have never liked having my dick sucked.
                      Never.  To this day I do not like having
                      my dick sucked.  Even by men.  I don't
                      like it.  I'm squeamish, I'm like, "Watch
                      the teeth."  I'm just more of a bottom
                      boy.  I just love sucking dick?  God, I
                      live for it. And I love to get fucked. I
                      think the reason I don't like to top is
                      just the physical awkwardness of it.  For
                      me to climb on a big Rex Chandler type
                      would just look ridiculous.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Do you get into scat as well?

                                MICHAEL
                      I have a very, very minimal interest in
                      it.  Occasionally, what I would do when I
                      was younger and even now on rare
                      occasions, is shit in my pants, generally
                      indoors but even outdoors.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      What was the turn on to that?

                                MICHAEL
                      It was exciting, it was a release,
                      especially if you really have to go.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      How often have you done it?

                                MICHAEL
                      A couple of days ago...at home.   I was
                      laying in bed doing some paper work.  I
                      had underpants and pants on that I didn't
                      mind getting wet or soiled.  And I had to
                      go so I just let it go.

                                INTERVIEWER
                      Was it a turn on to you?  Did you get a
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